MESA DE DEBATES DO IBDT DE 10/06/2010

 

 

Integrantes da Mesa:

 

Dr. Paulo Celso B. Bonilha

Dr. Luís Eduardo Schoueri

Dr. Ricardo Mariz de Oliveira

Dr. Gerd Willi Rothmann

Dr. João Francisco Bianco

Dr. Fernando Zilveti

Dr. Michael Lang

 

Sr. Presidente Dr. Paulo Celso Bergstrom Bonilha: Prezados associados, bom-dia. Vamos dar inicio à Mesa de Debates de hoje, com uma sessão especial, hoje teremos uma parte didática com o professor Dr. Michael Lang, que nos brindará com uma aula sobre TENDÊNCIAS ATUAIS NA JURISPRUDÊNCIA DA CORTE EUROPÉIA NA MATÉRIA DE LIBERDADES FUNDAMENTAIS E TRIBUTAÇÃO(F) DIRETA.

Sem mais delongas, portanto, passo a palavra ao professor para sua aula.

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DR. LANG:   Chairman, ladies and gentlemen:  Thank you very much for inviting me here to Sao Palo.  It's my pleasure to be here.  And I remember, I think it was three years ago that I already had the pleasure and honor to give a presentation here exactly at this venue here.  So, there's some nice memories for me because I remember an interesting and lively discussion. 

Yes, I had been asked to talk about recent developments.  I have prepared some slides, and I would like to go through the slides together with you.  Of course, you will find a lot of references to such a court decision, and I'll try to not to go too much into detail.  I will try to discuss the main issues and the main topics but, of course, maybe the court judgments I've made reference to could serve as kind of a help for you.  If you want to take a closer look into the case law of the European Court of Justice, then you see and you know the names of the important judgments. What's nice, I think, about the judgments of the European Court of Justice that they are all over the Internet and in all the European languages.  Since Portuguese is also one of the European languages, you can read all of the judgments for most of the opinions of the Attorney General in Portuguese as well.  This is very accessible at the website of the European Court of Justice. 

I'm also very happy that I have been invited to talk about developments at the European Court of Justice.  Because what I'm going to do is talk about the freedoms because the freedoms, the economic freedoms we have in the European Treaty, or I should say in the Union Treaty nowadays, those freedoms I think are the most relevant provisions at least in the concept of tax law because most of the judgments of the European Court of Justice in the area of tax law deal with the freedoms. 

So, I think the freedoms are probably most important.  Second, I think it might be interesting especially from a non‑European background because the freedoms, in substance, are principles of equality.
         If I understand your system correctly, of course, I'm not at all an expert of the Brazilian system, but first of all, you have a constitution with the principle of equality and, therefore, my impression or my experience is that whenever you have a principle of equality, then you have more or less the same topics, how to interpret such rules, such principles of equality and that's what we're doing in Europe or what the European Court of Justice is doing, more or less, is trying to interpret the freedoms and trying develop some ideas on the lines of the principle of equality.     So, therefore it might also be a kind of reflexion of your own system.  Because I think that's what I always find nice about comparative tax law, that you're not only doing something about the foreign system, but you learn even more about your own system because you reflect automatically on your own system and your own provisions.  So, therefore, maybe the topic is a good one selected for this session. 

Yes, talking about the freedoms, thank you.  So, what I would like to do is to discuss the developments of the Court, and you see already on this slide here that I'm going to distinguish between two different periods, between the period started in 1986 to 2005 and then the second period.  Because the theory, the thesis I would like to submit here is that there is at least, to a certain extent, a slight change in the case law of the European Court of Justice which took place in 2005, but I'll come back later to that issue.

Why do I start with 1986?  Because as you're probably aware, we have the Treaty of Rome, European law goes back to the '50s.  So, why does it start in 1986?  Well, because this is the year ‑‑ or the first time the European Court of Justice has to decide on a tax case.  Before that, we didn't have any tax cases, at least in the not in the area of the freedoms.  That, of course, has something to do with the system of the European Court of Justice, because the European Court of Justice has ‑‑ or it's workload, to a certain extent, depends very much on the references it gets from the member states. 

Because, basically, there are two ways how one can approach the European Court of Justice.  One is that either a member state, but that's in the area of tax law happens only occasionally, but mainly the Commission, the European Commission, a kind of government in Europe, takes legal action against one member state because the Commission thinks that one member state has not implemented European law properly or there's an infringement on the European law, an infringement on the freedoms in the domestic tax system.  So, that's one way how the European Court of Justice can be approached.  That is the member state is not willing to do a change in tax system, and then the Commission will take legal action against the member state, that's one way.

The second way, which is more common I would say, is that the reference is made by the domestic courts to the European Court of Justice, because according to our system it's not possible for individual citizens to approach the European Court of Justice.  So, the European Court of Justice is not a kind of supreme Supreme Court of the member states.  It's not possible that you can appeal, for example, a domestic judgment at the level of the European Court of Justice. 

There is a system of shared responsibilities.  The Supreme Court and all the courts of the member states are still responsible and competent for the interpretation of domestic law and for the application of their constitutions, whereas the European Court of Justice only gives judgement on the interpretation of European law.  So, therefore, whenever a court, a domestic court, has some doubts about the interpretation of European law, then this domestic court may approach the European Court of Justice, ask for what is called a preliminary ruling on the interpretation of European law and then the European Court of Justice delivers its judgement.  But the European Court of Justice does not decide individual cases, only gives spec and answer to the domestic court and gives interpretation on European law.  Then the case comes back to the domestic court, and then the domestic court has to decide on the individual case and has to apply the judgement of the European Court of Justice in the individual case.  So, it's a system of shared responsibilities. 

So, therefore, more or less the workload of the European Court of Justice depends on all the questions it gets from the domestic courts of the member states.  When there are no questions, then there is no work to do.  When there are a lot of questions, then there is a lot of work to do.

Before 1986, there had not been any questions referred to the European Court of Justice because in the early days of European law, nobody thought that freedoms would have any impact on tax law.  Everybody thought that tax law would not be touched by the freedom.  So, therefore, there was no domestic judge in the any of the European member states who had the idea that tax provisions could be challenged against European law.  So, therefore, there were no references to the European Court of Justice, and that's the reason why before 1986 we don't have any cases in the area of tax law in the European Court of Justice.

But in 1986 it started the first case is of (unintelligible).  This is the leading case, and this was for the first time that not the domestic courts, but the Commission took action against France, one of the member states.  Then the whole thing started.  Because then, of course, a big discussion in economic literature started, we had articles in all the text journals and other journals, and, of course, tax advisors also started to think about those issues and try to develop the judgement of the European Court of Justice further, and that's how it's happened.

More and more cases had been referred to the European Court of Justice.  Now we have every year, I would say 50 ‑‑ 40, 50 tax cases probably decided by the European Court of Justice.  I think it is also important to understand the system, that the European Court of Justice is not an in a position to reject any cases.  So, the European Court of Justice has to deal with all the questions it gets. 

Sometimes, of course, the answer is short, and not so elaborate.  So, if the court thinks that this is not interesting enough or it has already decided the case in another judgement or answered the question in another judgement, yes, that might happen.  But in principal, all the cases which are referred to the European Court of Justice are decided by the European Court of Justice.

I think that's important because nowadays lots of people act like critics on the Court because there are a lot of tensions between different judgements of the European Court of Justice.  Of course, it's true that there are tensions even contradictions between different judgements, and I will come back to that later on.

But on the other hand, I think we should understand that this is almost unavoidable.  Because if the Court decides some hundred cases, well, then it's very difficult to be consistent because it's also very realistic and also probable that there are tensions between different cases.  For example, like the U.S. Supreme Court, they have a tax case every five years or so, then it's because they can reject and refuse to take the cases and the principles.  Then it's quite easy to not have tensions between the different cases if you decide to take cases every five years.

But if you have so many cases, of course, then it's much more difficult at the end of the day.  So, I'm saying that because people are critical to the European Court of Justice, and myself, I'm also quite critical, but I think that does not necessarily mean that the Court is completely wrong or that everything what the Court does is completely out of the picture.  I think, more or less, the Court is doing a good job but, of course, it is also the task for (unintelligible) and the task of the observers and the application of the observers to be critical to the judgements of the European Court of Justice. 

What you see here on this slide is the kind of structure, how the Court deals with the freedoms.  So, when we talk about the freedoms, then in tax law, we talk about, more or less, the freedom of establishment, we talk about the freedom to provide services, we talk about the free movement of workers and we talk about the free movement of capital and payments.  These are, more or less, the four so‑called economic freedoms which are relevant and which are enshrined in the European and the Union Treaty, the EU Treaty.  They are supported by a general nondiscrimination clause and also a chain of free movement operation. 

So, the system is that the Court either applies one of the freedoms, one of the four economic freedoms.  But if the Court thinks that is a case which is not covered under the economic freedoms because; for example, it's a case about alimony payments, so no economic activity is involved, then the Court would apply this provision, this general free movement provision or this general nondiscrimination clause.

So, at the end of the day all the intra‑community situation are, more or less, covered under one of the freedoms or the general nondiscrimination clause.  But, of course, it's necessary that there is an intra‑community situation.  Only if there is an intra‑community situation, so a cross‑border situation between at least two different member states, then the freedoms come into play. 

So, therefore the Court is not examining the domestic systems of the member states for domestic situations.  As far as domestic situations are concerned, the member states are completely free.  So, they can discriminate their own people, for example, that's not the European issue.  But if member states start to discriminate foreigners, members of other European union members then the freedoms come into play. 

In general, it has to be a intra‑community situation.  So, therefore, extra‑community situations, third country situations, are not covered under the freedoms.  However, there is one big exception, and that's the free movement of capital and payments.  Because this is the only freedom which is applicable in relation to third countries.  Of course, if you look at recent cases of the European Court of Justice, this is a big issue now because the now the Court starts to develop its case law under this freedom.  The big question is, does this really mean that everything that the Court developed for intra‑community situations is also relevant for third country situations under the free movement of capital and payment? 

I think it's probably too soon to give a final answer to that question.  But I think the impression so far is that the Court is willing to develop different kinds of case law, which in my field makes sense, at least to a certain extent.  Because the object and purpose of the freedoms is to implement the internal market.  We have an internal market within the European Union, but we do not have a general market outside of the European Union. 

So, therefore, if we apply the free movement of capital and payments in relation to third countries, we are not talking about implementation of an internal market and, therefore, it could be the case that even the provision, even if the burden is exactly the same, which is true for the free movement of capital payments because under the burden, there is no distinctions between intra‑community situations and third country situations.  However, the purpose of the freedoms could be different.  But, of course, that's the big discussion and a big debate in (unintelligible) nowadays and people might have positions on that. 

How the Court applies all the freedoms, and I think there is a basic concept for all the freedoms, which all the freedoms have in common.  First, the Court looks at the scope of the freedoms, which freedom is applicable?  That's the first question, which is for intra‑community situations is not so relevant.  So, therefore, the Court, at least in the old case law ‑‑ there are slight changes which I'm going to discuss later on.  But at least in the old case law, the Court is quite relaxed about that, because it doesn't really matter which of the freedoms is applicable. 

If we talk about freedom of establishment or free movement of capital because for intra‑community situations the Court applies exactly the same standards.  However, whenever we talk about third country relations, then, of course, this really matters because only freedom ‑‑ free movement of capital and payment is applicable in relation to a third country.  Therefore, it matters if this freedom is applicable or if we are under the freedom of establishment, because the freedom of establishment is not applicable in relation to third countries.

So, that's usually the first step of the analysis, the scope of the freedom.  The second step of the analysis is question of comparability.  So, what the Court is doing is looking for comparable situations.  This is also a big debate, but not so much in the tax area, more outside of taxation if the freedoms have to be seen as kind of nondiscrimination clauses or general restriction clauses. 

There is a big debate, more or less, outside of tax law because whenever we talking about taxes, then it's quite obvious that you always need a comparator. Because if you would take the position that every restriction is prevented, is forbidden under the freedoms, Well, this would mean that you couldn't tax any cross‑border situation because tax rules as such, of course, are restrictions.  That's clear.

But it's not the case and cannot be the case that all, that every country has to restrict its tax law in domestic situations, and then foreign taxpayers or non‑resident and foreign income would not be tax at all?  That cannot be the case, and the Court has never held that.  So, therefore, the Court applies the freedoms, at least in the area of taxation, and this is my thesis would also be that is even be to outside taxation, but that's probably a different issue.

But for the area of taxation, the Court applies the freedom as nondiscrimination clauses.  So, therefore, the Court always looks for a comparable situation.  And we'll come back to that.

 The standard situations is, is there a difference between domestic treatment and cross‑border treatment?  Is there a difference between domestic income and cross‑border income?  Is there a difference between resident, the taxation of residents the taxation of nonresidents?

If there is, and then the Court usually asks the question is the resident and the nonresident taxpayers, are they in a comparable situation?  So, that's usually the second step of the analysis.  Is there a comparable situation?

Then the third step of the analysis is, is there a justification?  So, if there is a comparable situation, if there is a different treatment because the cross‑border situation gets adverse treatment from the domestic situation, then there is a need for a justification.  The Court has developed a set of justifications which are accepted and other justifications which have been rejected.  But this is the level of justifications.

Then the last step of the analysis usually is the level of proportionality.  So, therefore, if the Court takes the few that assert adverse treatment for cross‑border situations, this in principle is justified.  This is not necessarily the end of the story, because then the question comes up, is the measure proportionate?  So, not ‑‑ if there is a justification, that does not necessarily mean that the case is old that this is the end of the story, because then the Court takes another look into the issue of proportionality. 

I think, of course, I have no idea about Brazilian principle of equality discussions, but in my experiences from other countries that in most instances you have very similar discussion when you talk about principle of equality, because principle of equality under most systems is looking for a comparable situation, is looking for a justification and then the issue of proportionality comes into play.  So, what the European Court of Justice has developed here is nothing completely new, nothing completely innovative.  I think it's one of the standard schemes courts usually develop when they have to apply principle of equality provisions.

Yes, I've already mentioned, and here you'll find in some of the cases and some ‑‑ of course, it's always a question of taste, which cases you would discuss as landmark decisions really.  But the first case is that of (unintelligible) which was a French case which has been decided.  It's official name is Commission vs. France.  Because the reason is, it was not a preliminary ruling case which had been put forward by the Court.  It was a case which the Commission took action member states.  So, it was Commission vs. France.

That was an issue about (unintelligible), therefore, the case is usually referred to (unintelligible), which was kind of tax credit, which was granted if French subsidiaries distributed the dividends to their French parent companies.  Then this (unintelligible) was granted, but it was not granted if French subsidiaries distributed dividends to a domestic permanent establishment or to a foreign corporation.  So, there was a different treatment of French parent companies versus French permanent establishments to foreign corporations.  Here the courts held that this is infringement of freedom of establishment, and this different treatment is not justified.  I'll come back later to the case because the arguments I think are still relevant. 

Here you'll find some other landmark decisions, which had been decided until 2005.  What I would like to do now is to discuss the scope of the freedoms, the issue of comparability, the issue of justifications and the issue of proportionality.  So, that is the kind of the four step analysis I just made reference to just a minute ago, and discuss the issues for the period 1986 to 2005.  Then in the second part, I would like to discuss the issues for the period 2005 to 2010 because as I've mentioned in the beginning of my presentation that my thesis, which I would like to submit here, is that there are slight changes between the two different periods.  I would like to make them visible when I talk about those four steps of the analysis. 

As far as the freedoms are concerned, we will not find much in the court decisions of the first period.  Because as I mentioned before, at least in this first period, the Court as quite relaxed about the scope of the freedoms.  So, it left it, more or less, completely to the domestic court. 

So, when the domestic court took the view, the domestic court which referred the question to European Court of Justice, when the domestic court took the view, that for example, the freedom of establishment is applicable, then the European Court of Justice did not challenge that and said, okay, if the domestic court takes the view that this is a case under the freedom of establishment, it is up to the domestic courts to decide that and apply that then we will give an answer under the freedom of establishment. 

If the domestic court takes the view that is this is a case under free movement of capital and payment, of course, we assume it's free movement of capital and payments.  We will give an answer under this provision.

So, the Court was not going to examine that or so the Court took that for granted what it got, the question it got from the domestic court.  Of course, as an example there is also an exception to around the case, but I think it would be too far if I would go to the examples and exceptions, because as lawyers we know that there is no rule without exception.  So, therefore, there is no underlying case law where you wouldn't find any exception.  But I think the rule is, in general, quite clear. 

The second step of the analysis is the question of comparability.  I've already mentioned that outside tax law, we have the question restriction versus nondiscrimination approach, which is in my view not really a contradiction.  Because I think that even outside tax law, you could explain all the so‑called restriction cases also as nondiscrimination cases.  It's only the question that sometimes it's more difficult to find the comparable situation.  Sometimes, the comparable situation is the rest of the remaining legal order.  So, we've had that discussion in many countries also under the principle of equality. 

So, in my view, this is not the basic difference, but in tax law it is, more or less, theoretically sure, because in tax law I think it's quite common sense and common understanding among all the scholars that you can explain all the tax cases under the nondiscrimination approach.  So, therefore, the Court is always looking for a comparable situation and which there are comparisons we had so far. 

We've had two standard situations I would say.  The comparison between resident and non‑resident taxpayers.  Quite often the Court has looked at this pair of comparison.  So, if there is adverse treatment for nonresident taxpayer, and if the Court took the view ‑‑ or takes the view that the situation are comparable, then the Court asks for a justification.  So, that's one step.

The second step is the comparison of two resident taxpayers, one who is in an internal situation and the other one who is in a cross‑border situation.  So, for example, if there is different treatment for cross‑border dividends, if, for example, which is the case in my own country many years ago, that foreign dividends were taxed the rate of 50 percent and domestic dividends were taxed the rate of 25 percent, Then that was clear case which my country lost the European Court of Justice.  But it was kind of obvious because the Court held that the two taxpayers are in a comparable situation.  The one who was receiving domestic dividends and the other one who was receiving foreign dividends from Germany or any other country. 

There is a different treatment.  There is adverse of treatment of the cross‑boarder situation so, therefore, there is a need for justification.  The Court did not accept any of the justifications which had been brought forward.  So, therefore, there was an infringement of the free movement of capital and payment.  So, Austria lost the case.  So, that was also a standard situation.

But there are lots of cases where the Court compared two different domestic taxpayers, one in a cross‑boarder situation, the other in an internal situation.  But more controversial is that sometimes the Court is also comparing two nonresident taxpayers in two different cross‑border situations. 

So, I made references to some of the judgements where in my view this plays a role but, of course, one has to admit it is not so obvious, and this is why it's controversial.  So, in, for example Shumacker (phonetic), which is a quite famous judgement of the European Court of Justice, This was a case, first of all, different treatment resident taxpayers and nonresident taxpayers.

Mr. Shumacker was Belgian resident who worked in Germany, and he didn't get the same treatment as German taxpayers, the same allowances, the same marriage, household allowances and so on.  Yes, so, he was discriminated.  So, on the one hand it was a discrimination between resident and nonresident taxpayers, because of his status as a Belgian taxpayer.  He did not get the same beneficial favorable treatment of a German‑resident taxpayer.

But on the other hand, it was also, in my view, a case of comparison between two nonresident taxpayers, because the Court explicitly referred to a specific treaty between Germany and The Netherlands.  Under this treaty, Dutch taxpayers would have got this benefit because Germany has agreed with The Netherlands that Dutch taxpayers would get the allowances if they receive 90 percent or more than 90 percent of their income in Germany. 

So, this was also an argument for the Court, that the Court at least in one paragraph said, well, a Dutch taxpayer who would received 90 percent or all of his income in Germany would get these allowances because under the treaty, a Belgian taxpayer who is also a nonresident taxpayer would not get this allowance.  So, therefore, at the end of the day, it's also a case where two nonresident taxpayers were treated differently, where there was a discrimination of one non‑resident taxpayer against the other nonresident taxpayer. 

But of course, in most of these cases you have in academic literature, a quite controversial discussion how crucial, how decisive this comparison was.  I don't want to ignore that.

What's also quite interesting is that we have some cases where the Court made, what I would call, a legal comparison in order to determine if the comparable situation is fair or not, and in other cases where the Court made what I would call a factual comparison.

So, to give you one example, an example for the legal comparison is for example, the case of (unintelligible) I've already mentioned.  Because the reason why the Court held that the French parent company and the French permanent establishment of the foreign company were comparable was that exactly all the same rules were applicable in French parent companies and permanent establishments, with the one exception, namely the (unintelligible).  This tax credit was not granted.

So, in order to determine comparability, the Court looked at all the rules which were applicable to both taxpayers and found out which one was identical and therefore, they are in a comparable situation with the small exception.  So, therefore, that was a case of legal comparability, because the Court didn't look at the factual situation, it only looked at the rules which were applicable for both taxpayers.

On the other hand, Shoemaker, for example, is a case of factual comparison.  Because in Shoemaker the Court held that taxpayers ‑‑ the Court said, resident taxpayers and nonresident taxpayers are in general not in comparable situation.  But if the nonresident taxpayer receives 90 percent or more than 90 percent of his income in the other state, then he or she becomes comparable.  So, it really depends on the factual situation. 

The Court said it didn't look so much on the rules which were applicable in Mr. Shoemaker and on German resident taxpayers, It looked at the factual situations.  It said, as long as Mr. Shoemaker receives less than 90 percent of his income in Germany, you can't compare him with the German taxpayer.  But if he receives almost all or all of his income in Germany from German sources, then factually he's in the same situation as a German taxpayer. 

So, that's an approach or an example that the Court applied the system of factual comparability.  That's, I think, one of the interesting things also in the case law of the Court that at least for me, but I think for other people it's difficult as well. 

I can never predict if the Court will apply the factual approach or the legal approach in order to determine comparability.  Sometimes the Court applies the factual approach, sometimes the Court applies the legal approach.  So, in my field that's the case where you have tensions, where you have contradictions between the different lines of case law.

What was also quite interesting is that from time to time the Court has mentioned that it's an infringement of the freedoms, not only if there is a different treatment of comparable situations, but the Court has also has held that there could be an infringement of the freedoms if there is an identical treatment of non‑comparable situations, which I think ‑‑ of course, I have no idea about the Brazilian discussion, but we find also in many systems when we talk about the principle of equality that this is considered to be the other side of the coin. 

On the one hand, you're prevented from treating comparable situations differently without any justifications, but you're also prevented from treating non‑comparable situations equally without any justification, and the European Court of Justice is on the same line.  So, you find a lot of judgements where the Court has repeatedly mentioned that sentence.  However, it's more or less a lip service. 

So, there are just a few cases which could serve as an example where the Court has really gone so far to apply this sentence.  But at least in theory or in general the Court takes also the view that this is the other side of the coin, and this is also relevant.  But there are not so many cases which can serve as an example for that. 

Yes, coming to the next step of the analysis, this is the justifications.  So, what the Court has started to develop is a set of possible justifications, so criteria which could justify different treatment.  In the first period of the case law, the Court has been very restrictive on that. 

So, the Court has discussed, for example ‑‑ because, yes, one, I think, also has to bear in mind that justifications are usually brought forward by the governments of the member states.  Because the governments of the member states, they want to defend their tax systems so, they can come up with the arguments and they try to find possible justification. 

For example, one of the possible justifications was that in the area of tax law, there is no harmonization under European law or almost no harmonization under European law.  So, therefore, this lack of harmonization could serve as the justification for different treatment.

Here already, (unintelligible) said, no way.  It's true that there is no harmonization in tax law, that's true.  But still, member states are free to have their own tax systems.  However, they have take into account the freedoms.  So, whatever the tax system is, they must not discriminate between resident and nonresident taxpayers foreign and domestic income and so on.  So, that has been rejected.

The second justification which has been rejected as well is the loss of tax revenues, which is quite obvious because if the Court would have accepted the possible loss of tax revenues as possible justifications, well, this would have served as a comped lunch at the end of the day in the area of tax law.  Because that would have meant that in the area of tax law that the freedoms wouldn't play any role.  So, therefore it's quite obvious that the Court has rejected this justification as well.

Another interesting justification, which at least in the old era, and I'm talking about the period between 1986 and 2005, so the Stone Age in tax law is quite recent.  Still, but one justification which had also been rejected was reciprocity.  Because already (unintelligible).  The French government tried to defend its system and took the position and said, well, of course, in the first step, we only grant this (unintelligible) to our own corporations. 

But whenever, for example, countries like Italy or Germany, if they want to get that for their corporations as well, we're willing to grant the (unintelligible), but we want to do that under a tax treaty for the obvious reasons, because we want to get something for this.  So, if we want to be nice, we shall be nice to the Italian or the German corporations, then we want to get something in exchange, and then Italy or Germany should be nice to our taxpayers as well, which is, of course, the idea of bargaining, which we find under the tax treaty.

In theory (unintelligible) already in 1986 the Court said, no way.  The freedoms are unconditional.  So, the idea behind that is that in a legal order, reciprocity should not play a role.  So, if every member state has to have a system which is in conformity with the freedom.  So, you can't can defend your own system under the argument of reciprocity that you are only treating the other taxpayers in a friendly way, if your taxpayers are also treated in a friendly way.

The idea behind that is that the Court expressly mentioned it, but I think that's the idea that if France feels that Germany or Italy or any other member state does not pay attention to the freedoms, then they can take action against Germany or against Italy or any other member state.  We have the European Court of Justice and we have the legal system, and whenever they think that there is a an infringement, then they should go to the Court.  So, it's a system of the legal order, and it's not, well, the old days of the Stone Age where people were fighting with each other.  We had the legal system, we had the legal order.  When you have such an issue, then you should bring it to the European Court of Justice.

What's also interesting is that the prevention of tax evasion.  That was also an argument in (unintelligible), already that the French government took the position and said, well it's so difficult with foreign taxpayers, we never know if they use our system.  We don't have the full information, the whole picture.  So, in order to make our system evasion‑proof or so, we have to discriminate them. 

Here the Court said, no way, this is not justified.  The Court went so far to say that the prevention of tax evasion can never serve as a justification, and that has been reversed afterwards. 

So, already ICI, the Imperial Chemical Industries, a case which had been decided in 1998, so ten years later or so, the Court took another position and said, well, in principle, the principal of tax evasion could serve as a justification, but, of course, the measure has to be proportionate.  But, in principle, it accepted this argument as justification.  (Unintelligible) the Court took a different position. 

Then the compensation of disadvantages had also been rejected.  I think it's also interesting because my feeling is that we had the discussion under many systems when we talk about principle of equality.  Because what the French government (unintelligible) said, that yes, it's true, that those permanent establishments of German companies or Italian companies, they don't get the same benefits as French companies, but they get other benefits, different benefits.  So, there is kind of a compensation of disadvantages by granting other advantages. 

Here the Court said, no way.  You can't justify a disadvantage by granting any other advantage.  You have to look at each role separately, which I think is interesting because in my own system, when my own Supreme Court applies the principle of equality, my Court would take a different view, and many Court is sometimes willing to take into account other advantages in order which could compensate a certain disadvantage. 

Here, at least in this case, the Court had a very strict approach here.  But, of course, already mentioned is Bachmann there are mention there are some tensions also in the case of the European Court of Justice where you can have doubts if the Court was always consistent and never accepted other advantages as a possible compensation for a disadvantage. 

What's also interesting is that the Court dealt with the need for fiscal supervision, that has something to do that whenever a cross‑border situation, then it's quite difficult to assess the facts and the whole picture because you can send your tax inspectors abroad.  In Europe that's not quite easily possible.  So, therefore, you don't have the same level of fiscal supervision if the situation is a cross‑border situation.  Here, in general, the Court has accepted that as a justification, but at the same time it has said if there are instruments which make it possible for the Tax Authority of the member state to get the full picture, to get the whole information, then there is ‑‑ this cannot serve as a justification. 

Within Europe we have certain directors, especially the mutual assistance director.  So, therefore, in practice this has not been accepted as a justification because the Tax Authority almost always has the opportunity to ask their colleagues abroad under the mutual assistance director, and they oblige under the mutual assistance directive to give all the information about their tax payers if the Foreign Tax Authority wants to have this information. 

So, therefore, the need for fiscal supervision, I would say has been accepted as a justification in principle, but at the level of proportionality it has been restricted, again, only because there is no mutual assistance applicable. 

Yes, proportionality, if you remember that's the last step, the fourth step of the analysis.  If you look at the first period of the case law, then there is little discussion of proportionality.  Why?  Because the Court has almost rejected almost all the justifications which have been brought forward.  So, therefore, if you reject all of the justifications, well, then there is no need to go one step further and look into proportionality.  So, therefore, there is very little discussion on proportionality.

I mentioned already that ICI, Imperial Chemical Industries, in 1998, the prevention of abuse and evasion have been accepted as a possible justification, but it was only conceded either to be proportionate if the domestic measure was limited to what the Court called wholly artificial arrangements.  So, therefore, it's only possible to discriminate cross‑border situations because of the danger or the justification to prevent abusive and evasion if this measure is limited to wholly artificial arrangement.  That has for a long time has been the big secret of the Court, what wholly artificial arrangement really means.

In 2005, 2006 now we have Cadbury Schweppes ‑‑ and I'll come back to that ‑‑ where the Court had been forced to explain what it meant on the wholly artificial arrangements.  But, in general, there's a very limited scope of where it's possible to discriminate under this justification. 

The coherence has also been accepted, that's one of the critical arguments, coherence has also been accepted as a possible justification.  So, the Court has held in Bachmann already that a court may treat a foreign or cross‑border situations worse than domestic situations if this is necessary in order to maintain the coherence of the tax system.  Yes, so, in general, it has been accepted as a possible justification and many orders have criticized that a lot because you never what the coherence of the tax system means.  In the end, it's probably something like accepting other disadvantages or other advantages in compensation for a disadvantage.

So, therefore, if you remember this the slide before, I mentioned already that Bachmann is a kind of tensions through the other case law.  So, nobody really knows what coherence means.  And in Bilox (phonetic), the Court of Justice restricted that approach because it said that coherence could only play a role if the coherence is not taken away by other roles.  And Bilox was a case about the creation of a pension reserve, and the resident tax payers could deduct certain items of their income if they established a pension reserve.  For nonresident tax payers that was not possible. 

The government argued that that is necessary in order to maintain the coherence of the tax system.  Because if you established such a pension reserve, then on the one hand, the payment was deductible, but on the other hand, when you dissolve the reserve at the end of the day, when you retire, then the payment or the money you get from the pension reserve is taxable as well.  Whereas, if you are a nonresident taxpayer, it is not deductible because you can't establish, you can't build up such a pension reserve.  But, of course, there is no tax liability at the end of the day either.  So, therefore, it's a system of coherence.

But here the Court said, well, you can't defend the system under the justification of coherence.  Because if you have concluded a tax treaty and the reached pensions may only be taxed in the state of residence, then this member state is taking away it's own coherence by having concluded such a tax treaty.  So, it's the fault of the member states, and can't justify this different treatment because of the argument of the coherence.

But I think these are the rare cases and very controversial cases where proportionality played a role.  So, in the first period of the case law, we have very, very few case on the proportionality, for the obvious reasons, because justifications have been rejected. 

So, therefore, summing up the first period of the case law, I think the Court usually was very quick on comparability.  So, the Court didn't spend much effort on explaining why the situation is comparable.  So, we can accept the comparability.  When comparability was accepted, that was almost the end of case because then there was almost a certainty that there is an infringement because the Court has rejected almost all possible justifications. 

So, therefore, in the first era of the case law in the Court of Justice, taxpayers were enthusiastic about the Court because there has almost never as been any case where the taxpayers had lost in the European Court of Justice.  Whenever a domestic court referred a case to the European Court of Justice, I think 90 or 95 percent of all the cases had been decided in the favor of the taxpayers and against the governments.

So, that was also one of the reasons why the governments are not so happy with the Court.  That's maybe also one of the reasons why there is a certain change in the case law of the Court.  Because what happened around 2005 that was especially true under the UK president.  See, we have a system of rotation that every six months we have another member states who chairs our meetings in Europe and calls itself the president of the council.  Under the British presidency, the Greeks were extremely skeptical on European ideas and were also extremely skeptical on the case law of the European Court of Justice. 

They, for example, started to talk about a specific tax court with tax specialists, for example, or to set up a Commission in order to help the courts to evaluate its own judgements or so.  So, there was a certain kind of pressure on the Court, also.  So, they made it quite clear that they were not so happy and they were maybe willing to change the constitution, which is not a constitution but to change the whole framework and to start initiatives.  So, the Court probably was also a little bit under pressure.

Furthermore, also, in this time, the Court ‑‑ the members of the Court changed a lot, because we had new member states and a lot of new countries, of course, new cultures, the central and eastern European countries came in.  Under the system, every member state can appoint one judge.  So, we have different personalities.  I think it's not a coincidence that many of the new member states nominate its judges which were much more or less very much pro‑government as well.  This might also play a role. 

So, in 2005, I think, there are some changes of the case law of the Court.  The landmark decisions since then are, for example, the EK of the Schempp case Marks and Spencer, and the end case Cadbury Schweppes (unintelligible), that's just to name a few.  Also, the more recent ones (unintelligible)  I'll come back, not to all of them but to a few of them.  Again, I would like to structure my presentation along this four step analysis.  So, I'm talking first on the scope of the freedom, second about comparability, third about justifications and then about proportionality. 

As far as the scope of the freedom is concerned, the Court is now taking a different approach.  So, the Court is not accepting everything it gets from the domestic court.  The Court is taking now a closer look at the question which freedom is applicable.  Sometimes the Court rephrases the question it gets from the domestic court.  Sometimes, for example, if the question was, is a certain treatment against the freedom of the free movement of capital and payments, then the Court sometimes rephrases the questions, what the domestic court obviously means is this treatment infringes the freedom of establishment.  So, it took another freedom, for example, and looked more closely why and under which circumstances or which freedom was applicable.

I think it's quite obvious why this is the case, because the Court was now and is still now concerned about this situation that the one freedom, free movement of capital and payment only applicable in relation to third countries.  So, in the old case law, there had been almost no cases in relation to third countries.  The Court almost exclusively had to deal with intra‑community cases, because it only got such questions from the member states.  So, the Court was not so much concerned about that.  Now the Court started to think more about the relevance, especially of the free movement of capital and payments in relation to the third countries.

There is a tendency now that the Court, in my field that's already made an interpretation of the case law, the Court is not so explicit on that.  But I would say whenever it's possible, then the Court takes the view that it's not the free movement of capital and payments is applicable, but one of the other freedoms; freedom to provide services or freedom of establishment. 

Even the intra‑community situations ‑‑ also in intercommunity situations, as such, it's not relevant because the Court is still applying the same standards.  But for third country situations, the Court, of course, is aware of the fact that every question that it gets for an intercommunity situation could come back again to the Court a year later or so for a third‑country situation.  If you just think about the Austrian dividend case, that did exactly happen. 

So, we, in Austria, discriminated foreign dividends, and not only European Union dividends, but also the dividends from third countries.  So, the question came also to the European Court of Justice after we prepared the system for intercommunity dividends, what about third county dividends?  The question was also referred to the European Court of Justice later on. 

Whenever it's possible the Court now tries to limit, to restrict the scope of the free movement of capital and payment.  So, the Court, more or less, takes the view, whenever two freedoms are applicable, then the other freedom prevails over the free movement of capital and payments.  That means also for third country situations, then the Court will then take the position saying that ‑‑ I can give you an example. 

I mentioned to you (unintelligible) that was a nontax case about a Swiss non‑European union member a Swiss provider of financial services.  They had a case, they thought they were discriminated because they wanted to offer their services in Germany, and they had exactly the legal roles, but it was worse treatment for them compared to German financial services provider.  Here the Court said at the end of the day, well, it's not the case under the freedoms, because it could be two freedoms are affected. 

One, is the freedom to provide services because it's a financial services provider.  Second, is the free movement of capital and payments because financial service has something to do with capital and payments.  Both freedoms are concerned, but there is only one freedom which was applicable.  Therefore, the freedom to provide services prevails over the other freedom.               So, therefore, the freedom to provide services would be applicable, but since we are in a third country situation, Switzerland, the freedom to provide services is not applicable and therefore, at the end of the day no freedom is applicable.  So, therefore whenever it's possible, the Court is trying to restrict now the freedom of the free movement of capital and payments.  There are some further issues, which I'm not to go over with you.

So far about scope of freedoms, they can be sure on comparability.  I think there are also slight changes of the case law because the Court nowadays is not so quick to take the view that resident versus nonresident taxpayers or two domestic taxpayers, one in an internal situation, one in a cross‑border situation are as such comparable.  Now, the Court takes a closer look at the issue of comparability and sometimes, for example, takes some of the arguments which had already been rejected, at the level of justification, but takes the same arguments which it had rejected under the old case law, the level of justification, now uses those arguments at the level of comparability. 

So, to give you just one example, that's the quite famous the D case (phonetic), which is about different treatment under a tax treaty, also a case similar to the Shoemaker case because there was under the Dutch system, there was a net wealth tax at that time and Mr. D was a taxpayer who was a German resident, and he wanted to be treated in The Netherlands in the same way as a Dutch taxpayer.  They had certain allowances under the net wealth for Dutch taxpayers.  Since he was a German resident, he didn't get the allowance. 

But here under the Belgian, Dutch tax treaty, they had the special nondiscrimination clause that Belgian taxpayers would get this allowance.  This is quite similar to the Shoemaker case.  However, this allusion here was different because the Court said at the end of the day, that these situations are not comparable because the difference of the treatment is due to the tax treaty and therefore, this excludes comparability, which in my view is a clear contradiction to the old case LAW I made reference to where reciprocity doesn't play a role.  Because as soon as the Court starts to refer to the tax treaty at the end, it refers to reciprocity, and it exacts reciprocity.  Whereas, in (unintelligible) the Court has rejected reciprocity at the level of justification.  Here, reciprocity comes back and has been accepted at the level of comparability.  You will find other cases here where you have with other justifications, which had also been rejected, they came back and they had suddenly been accepted at the level of comparability. 

That's, I think, also one problem with the case law of the European Court of Justice, what you see here, it's not so much that the Court is changing its case law because I think (unintelligible) become wiser, and not even the Court should be prevented to become wiser and change its case law, but I think what you could expect from a court and what you should expect from a court that whenever a court changes its case law, then it makes it explicit.  And that's not happening here and that's really one critical remark.  The Court only gives the impression that it always develops the case law farther. 

But if you take a closer look at the case law, then you'll soon find out that there are clear intentions and that the Court, as I said a minute ago, uses the same arguments which had been rejected at another level of the analysis and just accepts them on the level of comparability.  So, which is, in my view, a clear contradiction without making that explicit.  It's, of course, also human because judges are human beings who wants to be exquisite, but who maybe in the past mad a mistake or so.  But in the end, that's I think that's at least what one should expect from a court to make such changes also explicit. 

But we still have at the level of comparability, at least in my view but that's also disputed, that the Court still accepts two nonresident taxpayers in different cross‑border situations.  Because after the D case, there had been in Europe, I think discussion in literature, there had been many authors saying that after the Court had decided the D case and the way it did, the Court is not willing to compare two different non‑taxpayers.  My personal position is that this is not true either.

I've mentioned some other examples where the Court accepted the comparison of two other nonresident taxpayers and in my view, even the D case which I've just referred to, is an example that the Court is still willing to compare two different non‑taxpayers, because if you remember that's the reason why the Court said that Mr. D, the German resident, is not in the same position as a Belgian taxpayer was that there was a tax treaty concluded and the tax treaty rules out the comparability.  But (unintelligible) that means or that could mean at the end of the day in if the discrimination or if the different treatment would not have been due to a tax treaty but, for example, to a domestic provision, then the Court would still be willing to compare two nonresident taxpayers.

So, my thesis would be if, for example, another tax treaty would have been in place between Belgium and The Netherlands, but if The Netherlands, for example, would have domestic rules saying that Belgians are good guys, and Germans are bad guys, saying that Belgian resident taxpayers would get this allowance, German taxpayers wouldn't get the allowance, I think that the Court probably would have taken this case and could have seen the situations as comparable, and probably would have seen an infringement during that case. 

So, therefore the D case in my view is not evidence that the Court is now never comparing two different nonresident taxpayers.  The Court gave a reason which you can discuss if this is really convincing, but at least a specific reason why this situation of Mr. D was not comparable to the Belgian taxpayer, because the difference was due to a treaty. 

Therefore, (unintelligible) different treatment would have been domestic law, maybe the outcome which had been different and I mentioned some other cases here, for example, Cadbury Schweppes, also a very interesting case, which had been decided in 2006.  That was a case about the British CFC legislation.  The Brits had a CFC legislation.  Cadbury Schweppes was a British company.  They had a finance company, a subsidiary, in Ireland in that group.  The Brits, the British government, applied their CFC legislation on the income of the Irish subsidiary.  So, again, they applied a look through approach and allocated all the income of the Irish subsidiary to the British parent company to in their CFC rules. 

Here Cadbury Schweppes complained and said, well, this is a different treatment of the comparable situation, because if we would have a British subsidiary, then no CFC rules would have been applicable.  Then, of course if we would have a British UK finance company as a subsidiary, the income wouldn't be allocated to the parent company.  So, it's a different treatment of cross‑border situations versus internal situations.

But, at the same time, also ‑‑ and the Court in Cadbury Schweppes, the government lost.  So, the Court said, well it's a different treatment of a comparable situation.  There is no acceptable justification at the end of the day.  But what was interesting about Cadbury Schweppes for the Court, it was not only that it was decisive that there was a different treatment between a domestic and cross‑border situation, but that there was also different treatment between two different cross‑border situations.  Because the Court said, well if there is a British ‑‑ if Cadbury Schweppes, a British Company, having a subsidiary in the Island the CFC rule is applicable.  If Cadbury Schweppes would have a subsidiary in a in a high tax company in another European company, then no CFC rule would be applicable.  That is the nature of most CFC rules.  No, not all of them but most of them usually apply only in low tax regimes.

I know your experience is a little bit different here, but in Europe at least this is the case.  So, for the Court it was also relevant that it was a different treatment for two different cross‑border situations.            So, Cadbury Schweppes having a subsidiary in Ireland was treated differently compared to another Cadbury Schweppes or another British company having a subsidiary in Germany or in any other new member states.  So, therefore, it was also a case of a comparison of two nonresident taxpayers. 

Also, I have to admit again that there is no rule without exception.  There is Columbus Container, a case which been decided on some weeks after Cadbury Schweppes.  That was a German case about, again, the German CFC legislation.  This was a case ‑‑ Columbus Container was Belgian coordination center, or a Belgian company which was taxed at a very low level.  In Belgium they had a special regime for the coordination center.  It was subsidiary of the German company, and the company which was in a group of in the Utca (phonetic) family in Germany.

Under German law, this rule, this Belgian company was treated as a partnership, as a look through approach.  But of course ‑‑ not of course, but there was also a tax treaty between Germany and Belgium which provided for the exemption that day.  So, therefore, here the issue was that Columbus Container or the Utca family said, well, we are treated worse here because we have a finance company in Belgium.  If we had a finance company in France where there is not a specific tax regime, then we would also have the tax treaty with the exemption method and no look through approach. 

I should add that under the German ‑‑ Germany is also a country which doesn't always feel obliged under its tax treaties.  So, from time to time, they have a treaty override, and their CFC regime to a certain extent is the treaty override.  So, even if there had been exemption method under the tax treaty, they don't care about the exemption if the CFC rule is applicable.

So, therefore, in relation to Belgium, they applied the CFC rule there was the different treatment between Belgian income and income from France or French sources or wherever.  But here, the Court was not concerned about that, and the Court took another view and said, well, Germany looks through and if there is income from a Belgium company, Germany does the same as it does for German partnerships.  So, therefore, there is equal treatment of comparable situations, so no infringement no case under the freedoms, which under my view is a clear contradiction to Cadbury Schweppes.  Now we have a big discussion, for example, that Cadbury Schweppes has been overruled by Columbus Container or if you can bring those two judgements in line. 

But this here, I mentioned it here in the context of comparable situations.  It's also an example, Columbus Container, where two nonresident tax payers or two cross‑border situations have not been compared, have not been seen in a comparable situation. 

There are some other issues which have no changes here.  So, still the Court ‑‑ and I'm always puzzled about that sometimes implies in order to determine comparability and the approach of legal comparability and sometimes are factual comparability.  For me it's always is a surprise when I read a new judgement of the Court of Justice that the Court will apply one line of reasoning or the other line of reasoning. 

So, you will find both, even in the very recent judgement (unintelligible) from 2008 are approaches, are examples of legal comparability and (unintelligible) are examples for factual comparability.  So, I can't explain that.  It's a miracle or a mystery.

The next issue is justifications here.  What we see here that the Court is willing to accept more justifications as it did before nowadays.  Here the leading case probably is Marks and Spencer, which is also a quite famous case.  Marks and Spencer was, again, a British company.  They had subsidiaries in Belgium, in France and in Germany.  In all those three countries at the level of the subsidiary they had losses.  They wanted to utilize those losses in the United Kingdom with the argument that under UK tax law, they have the group relief system.  So, if there is a group of companies, for example, parent and subsidiary, they could subscribe for this group relief system and therefore, they can compensate losses and profits at the different levels and utilize, therefore, the losses of subsidiary at the level of the parent company, if this was a mere domestic UK situation. 

Therefore, they said, well, that's a discrimination.  The UK system does not allow us to apply this group relief system in a cross‑border context.  We also want to utilize our losses we suffer in Belgium, in France, in Germany.  Here the Court ‑‑ at the level of comparability, that was not an issue, and the Court agreed that these situations were comparable.  But what was very interesting here was the discussion at the level of justification.  Because what the Court said here in this case, it said, well, it is true that the prevention of tax abuse as such cannot serve as a possible justification.  We've held that already.

It's also true that danger of the double utilization of losses both in France, Belgium, Germany, on the one hand or in the United Kingdom can also not serve as the only possible justification.  But what the Court did say, well, if you look at three justifications together, if you take them together, then this together, those three justifications, take them together, then they could serve as a justification. 

This has been criticized quite heavily by many scholars in Europe because that's the box of the Pandora, which is opened at the end of the day.  Because, now, of course, if you take this judgement, you can't rely on the justifications which had already been rejected because you'll never know if the Court is making a new bunch of flowers at the end of the day, taking three justifications it had already rejected, and taking them again and saying, well, now those three justifications we have already rejected, together they serve as one possible justification. 

The Court went even further here in other cases, like finished case (unintelligible) the Belgium, the German case.  Here the Court said, well, even two justifications are taken together are sufficient.  The Courts developed also another justification, and the justification of symmetry and said, well, if there is possible treatment of losses and profits, for example, that could also serve as a possible justification.  There are certain tensions to the old case law as well. 

One of these justifications had always been the location of taxing powers, because what the Court has meant, more or less, in Marks and Spencer is a possible justification that the member states are free to allocate their taxing power, and are free to develop a system of a balanced allocation of taxing powers.  But I haven't found anybody yet who could really explain what that means and that leads to a lot of answers, because the Court is referring to this justification again and again.  It serves as an excuse, I would say, for a lot of cases where the Court is not willing to consider a case as an infringement of the freedom.

So, the Court uses this phrase of allocation of taxing power and says, well, there is a comparable situation, there is a different treatment, but the members states are free to find a balanced way to allocate their taxing right.  Therefore, at the end of the day it's okay.  So I find a little bit ‑‑ and maybe I'm over critical, but I'm very skeptical about this be new justification, because nobody knows where it starts and where it ends. 

What also has been accepted now is the prevention of the double utilization of losses.  We've seen that in Marks and Spencer, for example.  So, the Court is now more concerned that double utilization of losses in more than one member state should not occur, which policy‑wise is understandable I would say.  But still I have my doubts because on the other hand, the Court is not concerned about double taxation and such.  Because the Court still says that the possible and still holds that it's possible and the double taxation may occur. 

We have also recent cases from 2009, for example, the Block case, which was a case about inheritance tax.  Here the Court held, if there is double taxation ‑‑ double taxation as such is not on infringement of the freedoms.  So, therefore, in my view, I think you can take two different positions.  You can take the position that you're concerned about the double utilization of losses, and then I think you should also be concerned about double taxation.  Maybe you should consider double taxation is an infringement of the freedoms, because it's definitely an impediments of internal law because the same amount of income is taxed twice. 

So, you could take this position.  You could also take the other position that you're never concerned about double taxation, but then you shouldn't be concerned about the utilization of losses, double utilization of losses either.  But I think there are two different approaches which you can take.

What the Court is doing is taking a third approach, which in my view is difficult to argue because it's not very balanced.  To be concerned about the utilization of the double taxation or the prevention of double taxation, but on the other hand accepting double taxation.

Proportionality now also plays a greater role in the case law of the Court because it's understandable now we have more justifications which are accepted.  Therefore, it's quite natural that the Court now has to go one step further and also examine more closely if a measure is proportionate.  So, therefore, that is why it's understandable.  But here, also, to a certain extent the Court is applying different standards because under the question of proportionality, the Court in the old case law usually asks for the least restrictive measure, only the least restrictive measure was considered to be proportionate.

In the more recent case law, the Court is more relaxed about that and leaves more leeway to the member states.  So, it's not necessarily the case that they have to go to the most restrictive ‑‑ for the least measure, they can also take other measures or as long as they are kind of balanced.  So, the Court is more relaxed about that.  Marks and Spencer for example, recapture of losses because as I've mentioned, one justification was that this group relief system would not be applied on a cross‑border level because otherwise that would be the danger of double utilization of losses.

But, of course, you can prevent the double utilization of losses if you implement a system of the recapture of losses.  So, you could have a system and that would probably be the least restrictive system that on the one hand, you allow the cross‑border implication of the British group relief system or you force Britain to extend the group relief system also for foreign losses.  But on the other hand, you have a system of kind of recapture of losses whenever the loss is utilized in the country of the subsidiary, then a recapture should take place.  That should be the least restrictive measure. 

However, the Court took a different approach and said, well, the UK is only obliged to take into account the foreign losses if it is clear that the losses cannot be utilized abroad.  So, it's not the way that the losses can be utilized, and then it's made sure that there is no double utilization, it's the other way around.  So, the Court was not really asking for the least restrictive measure. 

That would be ‑‑ if you would have time for the other cases as well.  I think just to mention one that's the A case (phonetic), which was a third country case.  A Swedish company, which had shares in a Swiss company, so Switzerland again is not an U member.  Here, also the Court showed that it is willing to apply a different standard on the level of proportionality in relation to third countries.  Because here the Court accepted that there was a different treatment for cross‑border dividends.

Of course, there was on the one hand, no mutual assistance directive in relation to Switzerland because they are only applicable for intra‑community situations.  So, there was a need for fiscal supervision.  But the taxpayer said, you can't refuse us of the same treatment if we are willing, as taxpayers, to provide all the evidence you need, all the evidence you want.  That has been an argument which had been accepted for intra‑community situations. 

However, for cross‑border situations, the Court said, that's not enough in the taxpayer is willing to provide all of the evidence because we have to make sure that this is the true evidence and therefore we still need a mutual assistance director.  Since we don't have a mutual assistance director in relation to Switzerland, we are not willing to force Sweden to extend this measure to a third country, this would be beneficial treatment to third countries.

Conclusions, I'll make very short because I was told as a rule we shouldn't go after 10:00.  So, as far as conclusions about the difference is now between the old and the new case law.  As far as comparability is concerned, I think we have still different pairs of comparisons.  So, it has not changed so dramatically.  The Court is still, in my view, is considering to look at difference cross‑border situations as well, this is the big issue.  We still have this ambivalence in respect of equal treatments of different situations.  We still have some cases which are decided on the legal comparability and the others on the factual comparability.

As far as justifications are concerned, we still have situations that many justifications are rejected.  So, the Court didn't go so far that it accepted all the justifications that have been brought forward by the member states in order to be fair to the Court.

As far as proportionality is concerned, the Court developed its concept of wholly artificial arrangements in the Cadbury Schweppes case and it developed standards for third country situations.  However, in order to be fair to the Court, I wouldn't say that this is a change of the case law of the Court, because in the old case law the Court was not confronted with those third country situations.  So, it's the first time that the Court really had to deal with the third country situations.  So, I'm not saying that you can't take different positions on that and be critical if it's really necessary to apply different standards in relation to third countries I see also in general of market arguments and so on.  But I think if you have you want to be critical to the Court because you think there are so many changes in the case law.  I think this is really an example of the change in the case law. 

Where are the real case changes in the case law now?  That's on the one hand, as far the is as the cope of the freedoms are concerned, so there is more emphasis now on drawing the borderline between the different freedoms and the Court is narrowing the scope of the free movement of capital and payments.  I think that's kind of obvious, and that's really a change to the old case law where the Court was not concerned about that.  The obvious reason is probably the third country issue here.

Comparability, I think as far as comparability is concerned, it's also quite obvious that some justifications which recently ‑‑ which rigorously had been rejected, are now accepted.  So, for example, reciprocity I've mentioned, this is something that had been rejected in the past, and which has been accepted nowadays.

New justification have been accepted this strange, in my view this strange concept of balanced allocation of taxing powers where ‑‑ at least I can't come up with an explanation what that really means. 
We have new standards of proportionality now.  The Court is not only looking for the at least restrictive measures, the Court is more government‑friendly in that respect. 

Again, what I think I said already, I would like to mention that again as well, I think my critical remarks do not concern, or you shouldn't understand my critical remarks.  In that way the Court will never change its case law.  I think that's perfectly legitimate.  But the big problem, I think is and this leads to a lot of uncertainty that the Court doesn't make it explicit.  We never know when we refer to a judgement of the European Court of Justice where we have another judgement which is in contradiction to this judgement, if this just means that the Court has overlooked this situation could be the case or if the Court implicitly overruled its old judgement.  Therefore, it's very difficult now to predict how new places will be decided. 

I know I took a long time.  I think we don't have much time for discussion.  Maybe there is one question or so, if possible, I have no idea.  Mr. Chairman, thank you for paying attention.

 

(RAC)

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